Emerald Robinson: The Biden administration is rushing to provide more aid to the Ukrainian government with billions of dollars for his war with Russia. But is that really the best solution? We'll ask Lieutenant Colonel Robert Maginnis. President Biden is preparing to let 100,000 Ukrainian refugees into the country. This Title 42 is expected to be lifted in a matter of weeks. We asked Congressman Andy Biggs about Biden's border crisis. Plus, new audio allegedly exposes Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy on his efforts to push former President Donald Trump out of the White House. We discuss that with Steve Bannon. Today is April 22nd, and you're in on The Absolute Truth. The war in Ukraine appears to be escalating. A senior Russian commander said recently that one of the Russian army's tasks is establishing total control of the Donbas and southern Ukraine regions, after which they then say they can set up a land bridge to Crimea. The Biden administration is now rushing more weapons to Ukraine in response to including 72 Howitzers, 144,000 artillery rounds, 72 tactical vehicles, 121 Phoenix Ghost tactical drones, and five battalions. Now, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin will go to Germany next week to talk with officials from other countries about further arming Ukraine, according to Press Secretary John Kirby.
John Kirby: The goal is to bring together stakeholders from all around the world for a series of meetings on the latest Ukraine defense needs, and this is critically important in ensuring that Ukraine's enduring security and sovereignty over the long term are respected and developed. Topics will range on the agenda from obviously the latest battlefield assessment of the renewed Russian offensive in eastern Ukraine to energizing the defense industrial base in an effort to continue the steady flow of security assistance and, again, in taking a longer, larger view at Ukraine's defense needs going forward beyond the war that they're facing right now. We think it's time to have that discussion as well.
Emerald Robinson: Kirby also said the Phoenix Ghost Tactical drones were in development before Russia's invasion, and the unmanned aerial system would very nicely suit their needs. Officials consider the Donbas a decisive factor in the ongoing war with Russia, as we see which way this is going to go. Will Russia win, or will Ukraine win? Joining us now is someone who has a lot of experience on the ground in both Russia and Ukraine. Welcome, Lieutenant Colonel Robert Maginnis. Thank you for being here, Colonel.
Lieutenant Colonel Robert Maginnis: Well, thank you for having me.
Emerald Robinson: You know, I feel like what we see in the media sometimes contradicts reporting because there's contradictory reporting on Ukraine. So, maybe you can help us out. It seems like there is recent reporting that Russia has Ukraine pinned in the Donbas region, and we're hearing more DOD officials suggesting that the region could be annexed by Russia. So, what is your assessment of the situation on the ground now?
Lieutenant Colonel Robert Maginnis: Well, for decades, Vladimir Putin has made it clear that he wants to resurrect the old Russian empire. The old Russian empire included the Donbas region all the way down to Moldova. So, now the area, and that includes Mariupol, would satisfy, I think, what Putin originally intended. Now, of course, his campaign has shifted, which started seven, eight weeks ago, including taking down Kyiv and most of Ukraine. Well, overly ambitious, he suffered tremendous casualties, the loss of hundreds and hundreds of armored and other vehicles. Now he's regrouped in the east and is really pressing against the Ukrainian forces, most of which have been arrayed along the Donbas area. So, they're well dug in, and Mr. Putin has mounted a new offensive that just began, and it's to be determined whether or not he has not only sufficient numbers of forces to launch an offensive against these personnel. But also, if he has the endurance, which is possible, according to General Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, could last years.
Emerald Robinson: Now, I did catch something that, and I think you were able to hear what Kirby had to say in the briefing yesterday that we played. What caught my attention was that he said they were going to talk about arming Ukraine beyond this war in the future. That has nothing to do with this, further weaponizing. So, what is your takeaway on that? What exactly does Kirby mean, and how will that be seen by Russia? Could it further provoke Putin if the US does such a move?
Lieutenant Colonel Robert Maginnis: Well, I'm sure that anything we're doing is provoking Putin, given the nature of who he is. But what he's talking about is essentially what President Zelensky has been saying for weeks, and that any peace outcome of this current war must include some sort of security guarantees for the nation of Ukraine, whatever is left at the end of the day. So, that security guarantee would likely have to come through a treaty of sorts, not necessarily from NATO but certainly from countries like the United States. So, yes, there would be some sort of long-term agreement that would obligate the United States if Zelensky gets his way to go to the rescue of Ukraine should this happen again, if it ever does stop.
Emerald Robinson: We talked to retired General Michael Flynn earlier in the week, and this is what he had to say about the push to send more weapons to Ukraine. Listen.
General Michael Flynn: You're going to see people from the United States and principally from inside of the Washington, DC defense and think tank area, an arena that is going to be saying, no, we've got to give Ukraine more weapons. We've got to give them more ammunition. We've got to do overflight. All of these things only continue to exacerbate the actual war that we are trying to resolve.
Emerald Robinson: He also told me that it was like throwing more fuel on an already blazing fire. Do you agree with that statement, Colonel, or do you think we're doing the right thing and sending so many billions of dollars in weapons support to Ukraine?
Lieutenant Colonel Robert Maginnis: I've written on the issue, and what concerns me is President Biden has yet to articulate with any precision what our national interests are. Months ago, I predicted in November of 2021 that, indeed, Russia would attack because I pretty well understand Putin. However, Mr. Biden and his administration have yet to articulate why we are doing what we are doing. Is it a national interest to keep Putin from expanding his reach into Western Europe? Perhaps. Is it to undercut some sort of stability threat against NATO? Is it to sidetrack a potential nuclear exchange? These are all issues that have a strategic importance that Mr. Biden has failed to acknowledge.
Lieutenant Colonel Robert Maginnis: Now, having done that, all they're doing, I think, is looking at polls and saying, well, the Ukrainians are taking massive casualties, so are the Russians. How are we going to end this so that it's not on the front pages of our papers and our nightly newscast? Well, as some people articulate, the best way is to keep arming to keep sustaining to declare eventually the ability for Ukraine and Zelensky to defeat the Russians on their home turf. If that's our national interest, then, you know, okay. I understand why we are upping the movement of howitzers, javelins, stingers, and so forth to the front. If that's not in our national interest, then the president ought to stop this. But I see no movement, certainly in trying to articulate what our national interests are.
Emerald Robinson: It seems pretty split down the middle when it comes to Ukraine. There are those who do feel that we need to further provide military support to Ukraine. But then there are those who say this could be over in 24 hours if Biden would just pick up the phone and definitively tell Zelensky that there's no way Ukraine will be a part of NATO and then sit down and work on a negotiation to resolve this. Do you feel that it could be that simple? And if so, why has Biden not picked up the phone?
Lieutenant Colonel Robert Maginnis: Yeah, that's pretty naive because they don't understand Vladimir Putin and his support at home. He has four out of five Russians, according to recent polling, that supports this aggression, this military activity in Ukraine. Now, because they're spending misinformation, but for the idea that Mr. Biden could call Zelensky and say, you know, we're not going to help you anymore. Well, that would certainly have an impact on the war, and they would probably seek some sort of accommodation. But keep in mind that from Zelensky's perspective, accommodation to Putin from a position of weakness, which is what you're articulating, would result in the loss of much of the sovereignty of that country. So, Zelensky is in a hard place. He doesn't want to surrender the sovereignty and the country of Ukraine to mother Russia. And neither at this point, given what's happened and do most Ukrainians. Now, is that the US interest? Perhaps, but we haven't heard that from our president.
Emerald Robinson: Right. Well, it doesn't appear that we're going to get any clarification on that in the coming days, maybe, eventually. Thank you, Lieutenant Colonel, for being here. We really appreciate it.
Lieutenant Colonel Robert Maginnis: Sure. Have a great day.
Emerald Robinson: Up next, the crisis at our southern border continues to worsen as President Joe Biden prepares to let more Ukrainian refugees in. We discuss with Congressman Andy Biggs next.
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Emerald Robinson: The Biden administration has just announced a new plan to take 100,000 Ukrainian refugees. President Biden said the program would help streamline refugees into the country, and it will ensure the United States honors its commitment to go to the people of Ukraine and they need to not go through our southern border. Now, it should be noted that the president's timing on all of this warrants a valid question on the looming chaos that it will create in addition to lifting Title 42. And listen to the president's response when asked about the looming chaos potentially facing our national security.
Video Clip: On Title 42, sir, are you considering delaying lifting Title 42?
Joe Biden, President of the United States of America: No, what I'm considering is continuing to hear from my - first of all, there's going to be an appeal by the Justice Department because, as a matter of principle, we want to be able to be in a position where if in fact, it is strongly concluded by the scientists that we need Title 42 that we'd be able to do that. But there has been no decision on extending Title 42.
Emerald Robinson: So, we can't really tell you whether or not the president will delay Title 42's May deadline since he seemed to kind of confuse that a little bit with the DOJ's appeal on mask mandates. So, let's ask Arizona Congressman Andy Biggs if the Biden administration should delay lifting Title 42. Welcome, Congressman.
Congressman, Andy Biggs: Yeah, the reality is we can't tell what Joe Biden's going to do at this point because there's rebellion in the Democrat ranks in Congress over the lifting of Title 42. And that rather chaotic and byzantine statement he made doesn't tell us anything. But right now, every state and every CDP officer and agent I'm talking to are preparing for a lifting of Title 42.
Emerald Robinson: Now, the Democrats who are giving the Biden administration a hard time over this really fear that they're going to face repercussions with their constituents in their upcoming elections. Isn't that right? More so than on principle.
Congressman, Andy Biggs: Oh, yeah. You're 100% right. This is like a deathbed conversion. This is a political deathbed conversion because they're in an election year. They're scared to death that their constituents are going to hold them accountable for their bad policies and embrace an open border that's very dangerous to the United States.
Emerald Robinson: Now, when it comes to taking in the 100,000 Ukrainian refugees, the administration on a call yesterday suggested that it was going to follow a different process, that they would, in fact, have to stay in Europe. They need to get a US sponsor to sponsor them. What are your thoughts on this current move from the administration in regards to Ukraine?
Congressman, Andy Biggs: Well, they're making the right choice in the sense that these folks, these Ukrainian refugees, should be waiting in Europe. There are right now 27 different nations that have indicated that they would take Ukrainian refugees. In the meantime, we have in Tijuana literally thousands of Ukrainians who've flown over. They were waiting in Tijuana and San Diego when I was there last week. I was told that they're processing 800 Ukrainian individuals every day, and they're not claiming refugee status or even asylum status. They're coming in trying to get to family members that live in the United States. So, I think if you can keep these refugees or refugee applicants in Europe, that's where you need to keep them until you sort this thing out because there's going to be literally millions of people who have fled Ukraine in the midst of this Russian conflict.
Emerald Robinson: Yeah. The last number I saw was some 5,000 Ukrainian refugees had come to the southern border. But you're saying there's even more now?
Congressman, Andy Biggs: Yeah. When we were there, they told us that almost a thousand Ukrainians were flying in from somewhere in Europe to end up in Tijuana and waiting there. And I guess there are some facilities in Tijuana because they've had these caravans come from the south before. So, that's right. It looks like it was probably more than 5,000 and maybe growing even.
Emerald Robinson: Now, how is Customs and Border Protection able to handle this. Once you lift Title 42, and clearly, there are some Ukrainians who probably won't want to wait in Europe. They'll continue to come to the southern border. What are they telling you on how they're dealing with this onslaught of border crossers?
Congressman, Andy Biggs: Well, at least when we were there, they had set up a special area in a different building to deal with the Ukrainian people coming in, so they could process, they felt, 800 a day. But at the same time, they were dealing with apprehending 500 illegal aliens coming into the San Diego sector. So, they're taxed to the max. I mean, they have to have more people processing. They have to have more people away from the border, and so that leaves a more open border. So, people with malevolent intentions can get in. People can sneak across more easily. And the reality is, supposedly, this administration has said, well, we're going to start hiring contractors to come in and deal with this. So, their position Emerald is they want to efficiently and fast, quickly move people into the country instead of having a policy of keeping people from illegally entering the country. So, we're taxed to the max, and our agents - I've been down there recently, as recently as last week, where you have almost 40 agents. It looked like inside a facility processing people, and you had maybe three or four agents on the line.
Emerald Robinson: So, instead of hiring more Border Patrol agents to protect the southern border, they're going to hire contractors to fast-tracked and more easily facilitate migrants coming into our country.
Congressman, Andy Biggs: You got it. You got it right.
Emerald Robinson: Wow. Well, Congressman, I do want to move on to another topic. You, along with several of your fellow Republican members of Congress in different states, are facing an effort to be pulled from the ballot, that being in Georgia and also in Arizona. I just want to get your general reaction to this move to try to keep you from running again.
Congressman, Andy Biggs: Well, if you can't beat us at the polling place, I guess the avenue is to try to disqualify us. These are frivolous lawsuits. The plaintiffs and the group promoting this acknowledged that this is a political ploy. They're just looking for one judge. I mean, they've actually said this. We're just looking for one judge to try to throw somebody off because if that happens, they think that's going to throw chaos into the election, and I'll give you some breaking news, Emerald. I just received right before it came on the air the order in my case, Paul Gosar's case, and Mark Finchem's case here in Arizona. The judge granted our motions to dismiss all those cases. We'll see what happens, whether the plaintiffs appeal or not, but that's where we sit. That's the posture of our case.
Emerald Robinson: Well, congratulations on that breaking news. As you said, this group may appeal. Who exactly is this group that is responsible for this push against you and your fellow members of Congress? You hear your story, and they don't talk about the group behind it or who's responsible for this very often.
Congressman, Andy Biggs: It's kind of a murky group that claims it wants to protect free speech. I think that's the name of it, Protecting Free Speech. They have lawyers out of New York and a couple of other big cities. Then they come into your state as they did in our state. They hire a local mouthpiece here, and then I think they must collaborate and make this thing go on. But we just really don't know much about them. They get some local Democrat activists to become plaintiffs, and away they go. You know, I think they violated rule 11. I think these things are frivolous. They're political in nature, and at some point, they should be held accountable, in my opinion, for basically trying to scuttle the system where they know that they don't really have any legal claim or constitutional claim.
Emerald Robinson: Yeah, we saw a lot of that before the 2020 election. These outside high-powered Democrat lawyers from cities like New York and DC are coming into swing states and even red states to try to change the election process. Now, we do have more breaking news to discuss with you. A tape was leaked of a phone call between your House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and Representative Liz Cheney. It doesn't look very good for McCarthy. I'm sure his staffers have been very busy over the last 24 hours on the call. McCarthy suggests that he believed Trump should resign in the days following January 6th. In fact, let's take a listen.
Congresswoman Liz Cheney: I guess there's a question. When we were talking about the 25th Amendment resolution, you asked what happens if it gets there after he's gone? Is there any chance? Are you hearing that he might resign? Is there any reason to think that might happen?
Congressman Kevin McCarthy: I've had a few discussions. My gut tells me no. I'm seriously thinking of having that conversation with them tonight. I do not want to get into any conversations about Pence pardoning. Again, the only discussion I would have with him is that I think this would pass, and it would be my recommendation you should resign. I mean, that would be my take, but I don't think he would take it. But I don't know.
Emerald Robinson: Your reaction, Congressman?
Congressman, Andy Biggs: Yeah. I mean, if that's an accurate tape, in my opinion, it would have been very undermining to the entire Republican effort in Congress at that time. It would be no surprise that Liz Cheney would be pushing for that. We knew that, and some of us had been agitating that she should be removed from her conference chairmanship because of it. It actually went against the vast majority of Republicans. What's odd about that, this particular comment in context, is that literally almost 150 members of Congress in the House had been willing to and actually had voted to delay the certification of electors from various states. This notion of what we see happening here is undermining as well because the minority leader knew and was telling us something very different than what is conveyed on that and that audiotape. So, I think we have to get to the bottom of it, find out if it's accurate, and put a little bit more context on it. But to me, it's very troubling and very disappointing, actually.
Emerald Robinson: And in the past, McCarthy denied claims that he supported Trump resigning. So, the big question is, if this is validated and verified, will this affect his leadership position in the Republican Party in the House?
Congressman, Andy Biggs: That remains to be seen. You know, there are a lot of people who really are very supportive of Kevin. There are those who are a little bit more skeptical of Kevin. So, you know, it's a majoritarian body, so my guess is he's going to probably have to come, we're getting together early next week as an entire conference, and he'll have to come in and probably defend and make his case.
Emerald Robinson: Well, we shall see. Time will only tell. Thank you, Congressman, for joining us today. And congratulations again on your breaking news in your case.
Congressman, Andy Biggs: Thanks, Emerald. Always good to be with you.
Emerald Robinson: Up next, it's the rhino watch of all rhino watches, as we were just talking about. That could spell the end of one high-profile Republican political career. Well, maybe we'll ask Steve Bannon to weigh in on Kevin McCarthy, and you don't want to miss it.
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Emerald Robinson: Today is a very special Rhino Watch because it includes breaking news on the top Republican in the House, Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy. And a leaked phone call clearly leaked by his pal Liz Cheney to New York Times reporters. McCarthy clearly stated on January 10th of, 2021, that he believed former President Donald Trump should resign. Listen.
Congresswoman Liz Cheney: I guess there's a question. When we were talking about the 25th Amendment resolution, you asked what happens if it gets there after he's gone? Is there any chance? Are you hearing that he might resign? Is there any reason to think that might happen?
Congressman Kevin McCarthy: I've had a few discussions. My gut tells me no. I'm seriously thinking of having that conversation with them tonight. I do not want to get into any conversations about Pence's pardoning. Again, the only discussion I would have with him is that I think this would pass, and it would be my recommendation you should resign. I mean, that would be my take, but I don't think he would take it. But I don't know.
Emerald Robinson: You also heard McCarthy say there that he would not broach the subject of a Pence pardon. Now, clearly, it wasn't necessary. Trump neither resigned nor was convicted in the impeachment that followed, and McCarthy continues to make the trek down to Mar a Lago to advise the former president on his endorsements. So, will this leaked audio indeed be the nail in McCarthy's coffin? Let's ask Steve Bannon. Hi, Steve.
Steve Bannon: Hey. How are you doing, Emerald?
Emerald Robinson: Now, Steve, what say you to this leaked audio? Will it be the end of McCarthy's political career?
Steve Bannon: I don't know if so much the leaked audio as what it represents, and I think that has got to be worked out, obviously, with the president. I mean, my understanding is that McCarthy had told people when this story first broke in The New York Times that it was a pretty brutal story that none of it was true. It appears like he didn't know that Liz Cheney had converted him and then gave it to Jonathan Martin at The New York Times and Alex Burns, that was Ann Burns. So, we are going to have to see. I mean, it's pretty brutal. I think just as bad as everything about the president. I think just as disturbing is what he said about the conference where he said, you know, Republicans, they ought to work with big tech and Twitter to get Republicans banned on Twitter, to the Republicans. So, I think he's got a big problem with the conference. I think he's got a problem with Trump, and he's got a problem with MAGA. I think it's bad enough what was said, but I think it's the denial. And, you know, if he, in fact, talked to President Trump afterward and lied to him, and said it was not true. Then came out and found out it was true. So, we'll have to see. It's going to be a couple of choppy days, I can tell you.
Emerald Robinson: Yeah. I'm sure his staffers haven't gotten much sleep overnight. I want to move on to something else. I have to give you props for your Obama shout-out yesterday when he was giving a speech at Stanford. Listen.
Barack Obama, 44th president of the United States: People like Putin, and Steve Bannon, for that matter, understand it's not necessary for people to believe this information in order to weaken democratic institutions. You just have to flood a country's public square with enough raw sewage. You just have to raise enough questions and spread enough dirt.
Emerald Robinson: It sounds to me, Steve, like you scare Obama. You're living rent-free in his head.
Steve Bannon: Well, look, thanks for the compliments, but the reality is that he was speaking at Stanford University at a disinformation conference. A lot of was predicated on this Atlantic magazine article. But you've seen a shift in the narrative of the left. They understand Emerald because of the information coming out, both in the economy, on geopolitics, on three November, all of it, we're converging on a blowout in November. So, they're not going to give up their power just because we win an election. Don't think they're just going to sit there and go; this is going to be like 16, "oh, it's brilliant. You guys won this. This is fantastic. Now, MAGA takes power." They have to change the narrative. And what they're doing is saying, all we do is lie.
Steve Bannon: We're equivalent to Putin. It's all misinformation. We're using - I think it's extermination rhetoric, cancellation rhetoric. You know, they're going after Ron DeSantis. So, you're about to see a major shift in their narrative to start to figure out how without actual political, democratic, political power. What I mean by that is a democracy where we're going to blow them out from school boards all the way up to the House and the Senate. They're now figuring out how they keep control of power in this country. I got to tell you, if people think that the previous - I don't know, since the Tea Party, since the financial crisis of 2008, the Tea Party revolt in ten. If politics has been nasty, tough, and brutal, you ain't seen nothing yet. Everybody is about to get revved up. You can tell Obama and this misinformation conference is now to come back and say everything we say is lies. Everything is misinformation. And our point is we're going to keep doing what we do. Get information out of the American people. Build this massive populist-nationalist coalition, blow them out everywhere, from school boards to election boards to medical boards to university regents, all the way up to attorney generals, DA's, secretaries of state governors, state legislatures, the House, and the Senate take dominate full spectrum control of this nation.
Emerald Robinson: You know, Steve, I agree with you. I think it's probably about to get uglier, and this is them getting ahead of the narrative, as they always do. Thanks, Steve. I know you're busy, so we appreciate you taking the time.
Steve Bannon: Emerald, everything. I'm a huge fan of the show. Keep fighting.
Emerald Robinson: Now, as Steve said, Obama reminded us yesterday that people like himself and other Democrats like him are the real arbiters of the truth as they continue to spin the narrative of misinformation. And misinformation is the word they assign to any information that doesn't fit their narrative, quite frankly, just like Twitter does. But Elon Musk is continuing to try to change that at the social media giant. Elon Musk's SEC filing yesterday announced that he had secured funding for his proposed purchase of Twitter. Big news, and joining me now to discuss is Gateway pundit, writer, and Tim Cast, editor in chief Cassandra Fairbanks. Cassandra, so good to see you.
Cassandra Fairbanks: Hey, nice to see you. Thank you for having me.
Emerald Robinson: You know, I think you and I have faced a lot of the same things on Twitter. I mean, I'm off now, banned permanently. But the shadow banning and being labeled as misinformation for telling the truth, only to have them admit later that it was true. So, can you tell us what Elon Musk's newest filing says about his ability to purchase Twitter? Because people are excited.
Cassandra Fairbanks: Yes. It says that he's secured the funds to do it. He can essentially get around their poison pill possibly, and he might actually be able to buy it outright.
Emerald Robinson: Now, why do you think so many people - I mean, I think we know, but just let's articulate for the audience why so many people are freaking out about Elon's proposed purchase of Twitter.
Cassandra Fairbanks: Well, unlike the current Twitter board, he's proposed a lot of different things to improve free speech rights on there. He considers it kind of a public square the way that a lot of us do. So, he doesn't believe in permanent bans. He said that he supports maybe time-outs for people who take things a little too far but that they need to have a way to get back on the platform, which would be amazing because all of our favorite people are gone. And he's constantly attacking woke culture. I think that it would be great to have somebody who owned the company who actually cares about free speech, who actually cares about real news, real journalism, and independent news. There's a lot of good that could potentially come from this if he pulls it off.
Emerald Robinson: I wonder because Twitter is such a big platform, and now it's such a big platform for censorship. Do you think if Elon is able to pull this off, it will have a knock-on effect on other platforms because the censorship just continues to spread far and wide?
Cassandra Fairbanks: If he takes over and reduces the censorship and shows that the platform can be successful with free speech and possibly do better than other platforms. I think that for sure they'll have to adjust their business models. You know, they're still companies. They still care about profit, even if they often do things that seem counter to that.
Emerald Robinson: Now, I want to turn to another breaking news topic this week, something that you have a lot of personal experience with. A man who failed to put information out there and has faced repercussions for it. Julian Assange he's been locked in a UK prison since April 2019. Now prior to that, he spent seven years living as a refugee in the Ecuadorian embassy in London. Assange was forced to seek asylum because he released documents proving corruption in the US and the UK governments. So, Wednesday, the British court brought Assange one step closer to extradition to the US. From what we understand, he can appeal it, and it looks like they might really extradite him. What can you tell us about the current situation, Julian? Do you have any updates on his status and how he's doing?
Cassandra Fairbanks: Well, I've heard he's not doing very well. I mean, I can tell you, even when I went and saw him last time, which was about two weeks before his arrest. He looked awful. I mean, even going to visit him like the year before that, you could see he was degrading. He was losing a ton of weight. He wasn't taking care of himself, and he looked bad. I mean, I feel bad saying that, but he just did not look good. He did not look healthy. And supposedly, it's gotten significantly worse. They didn't allow any photos of his wedding. So, people speculated that it's because he looks so bad, and they don't want people to see him. Yeah. He's in rough shape, and he does have appeals. I spoke to people on his legal team, and they told me that the appeals could possibly take years. So, I mean, he's already been in prison, essentially in prison longer than people who commit manslaughter or molestation. And he's potentially going to be in there a few more years now, even before getting here to face the rest of his life behind bars.
Emerald Robinson: Yeah. So, if he is extradited to the US, you feel he'll be prosecuted and thrown in prison here as well?
Cassandra Fairbanks: Yeah. The judge who would be taking his case has requested all national security cases like this, and the defendant has never won. She was the person who heard John Kiriakou's case. And she personally requests all these cases and throws the book at them. So, there's really no hope. If he doesn't, you know, fight the extradition, and win.
Emerald Robinson: Yeah. You know, it seems odd that there will be one judge taking on all of these types of cases. It doesn't seem like that would technically be the rule of law to have one arbiter for this. Right.
Cassandra Fairbanks: You would think. But I mean, there's also a reason that they're trying him in that area. It's because all the national security people live there. It's people in government, people who work for think tanks and policy experts, and things like that. You know, they're going for a specific type of jury and a specific type of judge, and so it doesn't look good if he ends up here.
Emerald Robinson: Well, Cassandra, we appreciate you joining us today to touch on these two topics and give us an update on the Assange situation. There are a lot of our viewers who have closely watched the events surrounding him unfold over the last few years and want to keep up with how this is going. Thank you.
Cassandra Fairbanks: Thank you for having me.
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Emerald Robinson: Strange scenes and bad singing broke out in the Florida House as Democrats tried to interrupt the vote to strip Disney of its special privileges in the state. Take a look.
Video Clip: (Singing) People want to know. People want to know. Who we are? Who we are? So, we tell them. So, we tell them. We are the people. We are the people. The mighty, mighty people. The mighty, mighty people.
Emerald Robinson: The Democrats are still upset that Governor Ron DeSantis has just signed into law an anti-groomer bill that stops pedophiles in schools. Joining me now to discuss is Professor Mark Bauerlein. Mark is the most distinguished professor, in my opinion for sure, at Emory University, the senior editor of First Things magazine, and the author of the best-selling book, The Dumbest Generation. Hi, Mark.
Professor Mark Bauerlein: Good morning, Emerald. I'm glad to join you.
Emerald Robinson: Now, I wanted to have you on because your recent tweet about this really caught my attention. Are Republicans starting to wield power finally rather than do nothing and continually lose in the culture war? Are Republicans starting to gain ground, Mark?
Professor Mark Bauerlein: Well, I think that they are starting to realize that the liberal tactics that go back 50 years, such as accusations of racism, phobia, and also the tantrum. The collective public tantrum, the street theater of getting out there and breaking the rules, breaking decorum, breaking protocols as we see here on the House floor or like we saw in the Kavanaugh hearings. And afterward, the Republicans may be starting to realize, look, we can stand up to these tactics. We don't have to fear the power of the tantrum. We saw what happened in Wisconsin ten years ago. The way the Democrats behaved in the state House and other activists occupied the statehouse. This is the same kind of thing, and with a powerful governor, a smart governor like DeSantis. I think they've run up against a wall this time and that the left, the Democrats, are backing the wrong horse, Disney, on this issue. This is a loser, Democrats, and all we can do is keep putting the Democrats on camera as they skip down the hall saying, don't say gay.
Emerald Robinson: Yeah, and they keep doubling down on it. I will feel the Republicans are really gaining ground in the culture war when you see more Republican governors being as bold as Ron DeSantis.
Professor Mark Bauerlein: One would think the popularity of Ron DeSantis should be a lesson to governors everywhere. Abbott seems to have realized that actions such as putting the illegals onto the buses and shipping them to Washington, DC. Maybe this is the way to start fighting back. I mean, the left has been playing culture war stunts very cleverly for a long time, and Republicans are always on the defensive. They're doing rearguard actions all the time. What we need to do is start acting like General Grant. You lose a little bit one day. You come right back the next day. You win the next day. You hit them on the other flank the following day. Progressives have had conservatives on their heels for long enough. It's time to turn the tables. It's time to push back hard. Again, I think that the political lessons are Donald Trump 2016 broke all the rules that the establishment Republicans laid out, and he won. He won. DeSantis is more popular than ever. He is going to win. This is not the time to play it safe. It's not the time to be an establishment figure like Mike Pence, whose speech at UVA the other day was just a pathetic litany of cliches. Come on. People are out there. This country is in very bad shape. We need aggressive leadership.
Emerald Robinson: And you know, historically, leftists and progressives have been much better than Republicans at branding and messaging, especially with the buzz phrases, right. They always have these buzzwords that make their way into public policy and academia, and one of those buzzwords that you pointed out that have made it in is transgression, the word transgression. It was a hot buzzword over the last few decades, and they've turned it like it's a good thing. That transgression is good. It's what you want to be, but to transgress is really a sin. It's a violation of the moral order. Right?
Professor Mark Bauerlein: What they did was they surrounded transgression, you know, such as walking into a courtroom, wearing a T-shirt with obscenities on it, or showing up with purple hair in otherwise traditional spaces. They made that daring, bold, audacious, edgy, cool. They surrounded these violations of conventional norms, these sins against the sacred. They surrounded them with a revolutionary, liberatory aura, and there was a whole project in academia to do this. They wanted to go against bourgeois norms to show that these tenured professors, hey, we're just as radical as those sixties protesters back in the Vietnam War era. We are just as daunting and revolutionary as Malcolm X. Ooh. It really was almost a social thing, more than a political thing at that time, and the idea there was to break down the distinction between the normal and the abnormal. What we see in mainstream media certainly is it worked.
Emerald Robinson: Yeah, and that's how we get a drag queen story hour and the likes that we're seeing in education now. Mark, thank you for being here. It's always good to go over the culture war with you.
Professor Mark Bauerlein: Thank you.
Emerald Robinson: Now, it's time for your Round Up. A handyman was arrested in Queens, New York, after stabbing a mother 58 times and stabbing her body in a duffel bag. David Bonola was charged with the murder of Orsolya Gaal, a 51-year-old mother of two. According to The Daily Mail, Gaal was having an affair with Bonola. And Bonola texted Gall's husband, Howard Klein, on the night of the murder. NYPD has stated that Bonola worked in Gaal's family home and was known to the family. In other news, Mike Tyson unleashed punches on a passenger who wouldn't just stop talking to him on a flight to Florida. Cell phone footage shows Tyson smacking a man who was seated behind him. Photos of the passenger with trace amounts of blood on his head circulated on social media. Tyson reportedly asked the passenger to stop talking to him, but it is not yet known what led to the punches. A police spokesman in Fort Lauderdale said the incident occurred in San Francisco, and Fort Lauderdale police are not involved in any investigation. Finally, Rudy Giuliani surprised viewers with the masked singer on Wednesday night when Giuliani was revealed as a surprise guest singer. Some audience members were visibly shocked. Hollywood actor Ken Jeong was so disturbed by Giuliani's appearance that he said, I'm done, and walked off the set. And that's your Round Up. Next are highlights from just some of the guests that joined us this week. There were too many to hardly choose from. It was great.
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Emerald Robinson: You know, it was a really great week here on The Absolute Truth. We were accompanied by some wonderful guests this week. So, many it was so hard to pick out the soundbites of the week. Our guests were so great that the Washington Post and Mediate couldn't help but watch it, too. So, thanks for watching, guys. Now, let's take a look back at some of this week's newsmakers.
General Michael Flynn: You're going to see people from the United States and principally from inside of the Washington, DC defense, and think tank area, an arena that is going to be saying, no, we've got to give Ukraine more weapons. We've got to give them more ammunition. We've got to do overflight. All of these things only continue to exacerbate the actual war that we are trying to resolve.
Michelle Malkin: And of course, over the last quarter-century, the kind of smut and what I consider kiddie porn marketed as anti-bullying, diversity and tolerance curriculum has metastasized in the schools, and a new generation of parents is finding out about it.
Mario Balaban: AstraZeneca is hiding this type of information from the public. Think about what American pharmaceutical companies can be hiding.
Dr. Kelli Ward: What we're learning as Republicans is how to fight this Lawfare game like warfare, but it's Lawfare. The Democrats have been very good at it. They are ahead of us. Let's just be honest. But we are learning how to do it.
Zeek Arham: BLM represents an extreme leftist point of view that a lot of people are now waking up to and now being more vocal about, saying they don't represent us. They're not our voice.
Leslie Manoukian: I think it's really important that Americans understand that we are a nation of laws, and it doesn't matter which party you belong to or which side of the spectrum you're on. We should care about the rule of law. We should care that our federal agencies follow the law, and we should also remember that freedom is not a partisan issue.
Louie Gohmert, U.S. Representative: Our country, our republic, is in further danger than people realize. If they can do it to them. Then they can do it to anyone.
Emerald Robinson: Well, we appreciate you joining us this week on The Absolute Truth, and we look forward to having you back here again on Monday. And that's The Absolute Truth.