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Brannon Howse: All right. I'm going to be joined by Tom DeWeese now of the American Policy Center. Tom and I've been friends for almost 30 years now. Tom put out an article today. It doesn't have a title, but it's about smart growth. It's about Regions Smart Development districts. It's basically about these quasi-government public entities that are NGOs, non-government organizations. I'm also going to show you this document it's from 1992. I've had this in my library for years, and it is entitled A Directory of Environmental Activities and Resources in the North American Religious Community Summer of '92.

I'm going to show you some of the people that signed on to it. And we're not talking necessarily just about the liberal mainline churches. Oh, they're in there. But how about a major representative with the Southern Baptist Convention? The largest protestant denomination or association in America. They signed onto this with a bunch of progressive Marxists. And you wonder why we're losing? Because we have useful idiots and Marxists even in the evangelical communities.

That's why I wrote the book. Marxianity, which came out in November of 2018. Subtitled How the Evangelical Deep State and Their Useful Idiots Are Merging Marx, and that's a historical term by Lenin, by the way, useful idiots, because they thought they were going to get it advanced, they were going to help it come to power. They were the first to go after the revolution occurred.  

How the Evangelical Deep State and their useful idiots are merging Marxism and Christianity through social justice, white privilege, cultural Marxism, illegal immigration, interfaith dialogue, and more. It's 300 pages. You want to get a copy of this book Marxianity to understand how the Marxists have infiltrated the mainstream evangelical camp and how they're doing it. You can get it for $4.99 at WVWTV.com/Store. Tom, welcome to the broadcast. Thanks for joining us.

Tom DeWeese: Hey, Brannon. Thanks. It's good to be with you.

Brannon Howse: You, too. I love your backdrop. Looking good.

Tom DeWeese: Thank you. I've been getting better.

Brannon Howse: Looking good. I knew you would. I think that's a Mike Lindell commercial there. First of all, before we get into your article, I do want to talk about this document. Do you remember this document?

Tom DeWeese: I remember. I sent it to you, yes.

Brannon Howse: You do. It's been part of my library for like 20 some odd years now. Do you know that?

Tom DeWeese: Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Brannon Howse: Here is something I think folks will find interesting. Do you recognize that, Tom?

Tom DeWeese: No. Oh, oh!

Brannon Howse: Sure, you do. That's the Ark of Hope.

Tom DeWeese: Yeah.

Brannon Howse: The Ark of Hope. What is that folks, the Ark of Hope? It all fits together and the Ark of Hope is possibly like the Ark of the Covenant. Here we go. This is off their own website. I think it's arkofhope.com. A wooden chest was created as a place of refuge for the Earth Charter document, an international peoples treaty for building a just, sustainable and peaceful global society in the 21st century. Visit earthcharter.org for complete information on the Earth Charter. The Ark of Hope also provides refuge for the Temenos books. Images and words for global healing, peace, and gratitude. The interesting thing about the pictures, folks, you see, they even bothered to put in the long rails so that you don't touch the ark because if you know the children of Israel if they touched it, they died.

So, this is supposed to be like housing the Ten Commandments, right? Remember Ted Turner's alternative to the Ten Commandments? So. here's the Ark of Hope. This is some of the artwork on here. When I saw this today, I thought, look at that. You've got a lioness rolling over playing with this child in a wheelchair. What is this supposed to be like, the millennial kingdom? Have they set up the kingdom of God on Earth? You know, the lion will lay down with the lamb? I guess they're kind of implying that through their one-world government, they can bring peace and harmony, and the lioness will roll over and play with a little child in the wheelchair. And the lioness is completely ignoring the little, little Bambi over here. The little doe over here. Little fawn over here. I mean, what else? It's going to be heaven on Earth. Look at the menorah on the far left.

I see a cross on the other side. I see a bunch of new-age symbols. This is the artwork on this thing. Stephen Rockefeller was behind it and look what it says. “The Ark of Hope was created for the Celebration of the Earth Charter held at Shelburne Farms, Vermont, on September 9, 2001. On September 11, 2001, volunteers were cleaning up from the summit of the September 9th event when the news of the New York and Washington, DC terrorist attacks and tragedies were heard. Sally Linder's immediate, spontaneous response to the horror was to begin walking the Arc of Hope to New York and the United Nations.

Joined by Andrea Morgante and Janet Fredricks they carried the 200-pound chest across the meadows and the farms of Route 7, where they were joined by Susan Diehl Dufort.” It says, “Due to the heightened security at the United Nations, the Ark of Hope rested at New York's Interfaith Center upon arrival. Recognizing that the United Nations is central to global efforts to solve problems that challenge humanity. The Ark of Hope, carrying the Earth Charter and the Temenos Books, was exhibited at the United Nations during the World Summit Prep Com-II in January through February 2002.” So, this has got a lot of religious symbolism here, Gaia Earth worship, Mother Earth, that kind of thing, right, Tom?

Tom DeWeese: Absolutely. What they don't mention in all of that is they have those behind this have said many, many times that if we could just get rid of people, the Earth would be very harmonious, and you'd have that lion laying there next to the lamb, and everybody would all live in harmony. They leave out the part that when you're not watching, the lion will eat that lamb. But we're not allowed to talk about that part of it. But they have been advocating since the very beginning of their whole movement, they literally are talking about getting rid of about six billion people that the Earth can only sustain about one billion people at the most. Some of them have used 250 million as their number. But that is their goal.

Brannon Howse: Well, I was interviewing Kandiss Taylor tonight, who's running for Governor in Georgia, and she was talking about the Georgia Guidestones which talks about limiting the population of the Earth. No one knows who puts these crazy things up there. But it's totally the Great Reset, the Georgia Guidestones. It's there. I mean, it sounds like conspiracy stuff, but it's there.

Tom DeWeese: Yeah, it's been there for what, about 20 years or so? I've tried to look into who put them up and who was behind it and so forth. There's no record to tell you who is behind putting those up. But yeah, they talk about the reduction of the population and this whole everything will live in harmony if we don't have people messing things up.

Brannon Howse: Yeah, as I knew I was going to have you on tonight and talk about your article, but I wanted to mention this. Joint Appeal by Religion and Science and the Environment. This is what this document is and Al Gore's quoted multiple times here. Notice who funded it. You've got the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation. You got Mr. Steven C Rockefeller, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, you got the Tides Foundation. What can you tell me about some of these groups? Particularly maybe the Tides Foundation. I mean, the Tides Foundation is basically a communist front group, is it not?

Tom DeWeese: I mean, pretty much all of them are. I mean, globalism is all of their goals in all of this. One of the main groups that I ran into over the years, particularly back about the time I sent you that book, is the Religious Partnership for the Environment. Their goal is to bring all the world religions together under one roof, and the environment is the root of everything worshipping the environment. And as you put it, instead of worshipping the creator, you worship the creation. It's interesting, just about two months ago, I went onto the website of the Religious Partnership for the Environment, and I found something I wasn't supposed to see. This was a training manual to go into black churches. What's interesting about this is all of their programs today; you mentioned Smart Growth. Smart growth is literally involved in every single community in this country.

It's to get people out of the rural areas, get them into the cities. Living in these big high rises that you see popping up everywhere, not having cars to drive, just, you know, ride bikes to work or walk to work or whatever. The interesting thing about this training manual that I found is that what it is telling folks in black churches is that it has been racism to make them live in the inner-city communities. It's not as healthy for them to live in those areas. And it's not fair. It's racism that people are living in single-family neighborhoods, out in the suburbs with trees and grass, and so forth. And so, you need to begin to move the public housing and so forth into those neighborhoods because it's safer to live. Now, look at the hypocrisy of that.

They're telling us with the Smart Growth programs, the American Planning Association, all these environmental groups, is that we've got to move into the central city and all of us live together in these high rises. Except, well, gee, that's racist, you know? So, I mean, it's the hypocrisy of it. What we need to learn about all of this is none of it has a single thing to do with protecting the environment. All of it is about controlling you and putting you in a position where you can be controlled. If they get you all in the inner cities, then they can control your energy use, they can control your transportation choices, they can control your food choices, and so forth. All of that is what this is really about because once you are cold and hungry, you will look to the government and say, "Please help me."

Brannon Howse: Absolutely.

Tom DeWeese: And it builds government power.

Brannon Howse: Well, let's talk about that. We'll get back to this document here because I want to talk about that as well and show how it's being used by the religious establishment. "Region Smart was developed by several of the usual players with the goal to end representative government," you write, "private property and free enterprise. Bills were introduced in the House and Senate of all three state legislatures to create a Region Smart Development District." Now the bill was introduced in the House and Senate and all three state legislatures. Which ones are we talking about? Do you know what states were doing this?

Tom DeWeese: Yes. Tennessee, Arkansas, and Mississippi.

Brannon Howse: Oh, right where I'm at. I mean, like right now, I'm in Tennessee. I'm a couple of miles from Mississippi. I'm a few miles from Arkansas. So right where I am sitting, what were they trying to do?

Tom DeWeese: Let me just say our American Policy Center's Vice President, Kathleen Marquardt, was approached by some activists in Tennessee and they asked her to look into this and study it. She wrote a report on this. That report, the title of it is Distractions. You can find it on our website at Americanpolicy.org. But let me just quote you some things here. “In Tennessee, it was put in the House Commerce Committee,” and listen to this. “The Commerce Committee is responsible for legislation concerning commerce, insurance, and agriculture. It also has jurisdiction over legislation concerning banking and lending institutions, communications, regulation and licensing of occupations, protections of trade and commerce against unlawful restrictions and monopolies, labor and industrial corporations, consumer affairs, and consumer protection and unemployment compensation.”

All of that is under one committee and this is where this bill was put in place. Now, we have seen over the years the movement to bring together multiple counties, ten or fifteen different counties, under a regional pact there. What you end up having are appointed people on that pact. These are the people who put a one size fits all plan over all of those counties, and they go to the federal government, and they know how to apply for specific grants. Once they do that, they're all under this jurisdiction and so forth. What this Region Smart Plan is about is extending that not just for counties right in your own state but now bringing together multiple counties under the same regional pact. And that's what Region Smart is.

Brannon Howse: Tennessee rejected it, right?

Tom DeWeese: Yeah. What happened was, as Kathleen put out this report, the activists there in Tennessee grabbed hold of it, and they pummeled the state legislators in Tennessee. This has already come out of committee. It was ready for a vote of the whole body, and they just piled onto them. The legislators in Tennessee saw how bad this was because once this is put in place, and we've seen it with the just the groups of counties we've had before, these appointed boards begin to usurp the power of your local elected representatives. So, you elect certain people.

You vote for certain people because you want your community, your county, and your state run a certain way. Now, all of that will be diminished. They will lose the power that they were elected to do because of this appointed board. The legislators in the state of Tennessee, after they got all this information, suddenly said 'No." And they pulled the bill. Mississippi immediately did the same thing. I never heard exactly what happened in Arkansas, but it doesn't matter because those two states pulled it. It's dead. And as I said, this was a plan. It was a test case to bring this clear across the country, to put these regional groups together.

Brannon Howse: Just make sure our audience understands. You're talking about the State of Tennessee and the State of Mississippi almost gave approval of legislation that would give unelected bureaucrats trained, many of them by the United Nations, the Agenda 21, the Agenda 2030 ideology. The state legislators would give them this unelected board authority, to which, by the way, your local city, town, or county would have to be subservient, correct?

Tom DeWeese: Absolutely correct. Yes. in the bill, it said this. "For the purposes of improving the quality of life, promoting economic development, stimulating economic growth, minimizing unemployment, and promoting the general welfare for the benefit of the citizens of Arkansas, Mississippi, and Tennessee, these states do hereby agree and pledge to each other their faithful cooperation in the future planning and development of the Region Smart Development District." Here was a piece of it for the greater Memphis region. It said, "Will operate virtually autonomously." They've got no boss they can do what they want.

Brannon Howse: If this had passed, then all of a sudden in Memphis, if they say, "We're going to require everyone to do what?” What was it? Give me an example of what they might want.

Tom DeWeese: Well, one of the things that are being done right now is going after zoning protections for single-family neighborhoods. One of the battle cries here with them is that we have a housing shortage and people who are living in single-family neighborhoods where you've got one home with maybe a backyard, you've got a front yard, and you've got four people living there. You tear all that down and put public housing in there. We could put 100 families living in there and in that same space.

Brannon Howse: So, you are talking about using eminent domain to take private property?

Tom DeWeese: Yes, that is one of the things that they would have the power to do with it. Yes. And we're seeing now one of the partners in this is BlackRock. I know you're familiar with that.

Brannon Howse: Oh, yes. I just read a report last week about BlackRock going around buying up a lot of property.

Tom DeWeese: There you go. Yep, both rural and cities.

Brannon Howse: Buying up a lot of single-family homes.

Tom DeWeese: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yep.

Brannon Howse: ABC's Vice President, Kathleen Marquardt, began to research the situation. She found that the Region Smart Plan is strongly backed by the nation's richest and most powerful investment force, systematically grabbing up millions of acres of private land in cities and rural areas to control how it's to be used. That organization is called BlackRock. They are to be feared. So, if they grab up the land, what they're going to do is work with the local government, use eminent domain to get the property cheap, and then build high rises to house people in, and they'll own them and work in conjunction with the government. This is very much like you talked about in my documentary Siege, which I have off here on the side.

You were talking about the fact that young people see an area. Let's say it's a rough part of Memphis, or let's say it's not even a rough part of Memphis. Let's just say it's an older part of Memphis, and there's a laundromat there, and there's a little Mexican restaurant in there and a few other things in there. But all of a sudden., that place is being raised. I mean, it's been scraped clean the buildings are gone. It's been scraped, and up pops something new. Now it's got a nice new coffee shop, maybe a national brand on it. It's got this. It's got that. And you're thinking, hey, that's capitalism. They're improving the area. No, it's not Capitalism.

It's communitarianism, communism and capitalism mixed or socialism and capitalism mixed because all of those businesses that went in, there are all big businesses tied to the government, and they're all in cahoots to do away with mom and pops, a little laundry mat and Mexican restaurant and put in international corporations and big companies that are in cahoots with the government. That wasn't capitalism at work right there. You describe that in my documentary Siege, which came out in December 2019.

Tom DeWeese: That's right. And right about in 2017, I was in New York City. I was pitching to a bunch of media people there to hopefully get on their programs. And I was trying to talk to them about private property and how important it is, and so forth. We are in this ballroom in a hotel overlooking Manhattan. I was talking to this media person, and I said, "Look out that window." And he turned around and looked. And I said, "As far as the eye can see, there's not a single property right there." Every single decision for all of that property as far as you can see is being determined in the back rooms at the city hall and so forth. But it's not just your elected officials doing that. It is these non-governmental organizations that are in partnership with them. As you mentioned, also, you've got these global corporations. They are all working together, the public-private partnerships and the global corporations, as they pledged to go along with this.

The term is sustainable, sustainable, sustainable. As they pledged to go along with helping put that in place, then they were given lots of goodies. They get tax breaks, they get the first choice of where to put their businesses, and so forth. What the government gets is those corporations are using their advertising budget to promote these programs. Listen to the advertising that's coming out on your television every night. Everything says this product is sustainable.

Now, this is being taken to a whole new height under the Great Reset, where they are now focusing on Wall Street and investments there. If a corporation can't prove that its product is sustainable, it will not be financed. This is where we're going with all of this. Its fascism. It's a dictatorship. It ain't free enterprise.

Brannon Howse: It's big government and big business merging together for the furtherance of their goals and objectives, not the average American or the entrepreneur.

Tom DeWeese: Yes, absolutely.

Brannon Howse: Region Smart now, that's what it was called in our area, Tennessee, Arkansas, and Mississippi is that what it's called in other parts as well? So, in other words, how can someone watching tonight go and check and make sure this doesn't come into their state legislature?

Tom DeWeese: The name of the program is Region Smart. I was just in Ohio this last week, and there was a lady at the meeting where I was speaking, and she came in to tell me that they now have one that is focused to pull together Ohio, Kentucky, and Indiana, that is in the works right now. So, people in those states need to get on board and get to their legislators and see if they can stop it there.

Brannon Howse: So, what the activists in Tennessee and Mississippi did to expose Region Smart, they need to do in Ohio, Kentucky, and Indiana.

Tom DeWeese: Yes. We've got the report there on our website. As I said, the title is Distractions by Kathleen Marquardt.

Brannon Howse: And that's Americanpolicy.org?

Tom DeWeese: Correct? Yes, American policy.org. You can use that as a background to get all the information on it.

Brannon Howse: Yeah. Okay. Let's go back to this report because I want to show how so-called evangelicals are helping to push this. This is from 1992. In this report, we end up with the names of several people. I write about this in my book, The Coming Religious Right, and I mentioned two people here on page 254 at the top of the right side of the page. We have Dr. Henry Kendall. He is a professor of physics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, MIT. Chairman of the Board of the Union of Concerned Scientists and Mr. Alden Meyer, Director of Climate Change and Energy Program of the Union of Concerned Scientists.

This is my book, Religious Trojan Horse. Look at what I quote, Tom Deweese. But first I say, remember me quoting Helen Caldicott? She's the one that said, “Capitalism is destroying the Earth.” Well, I write on page 255, “Tom DeWeese, in 2008, wrote an article posted at Worldviewweekend.com in which he detailed the history of the Union of Concerned Scientists.” Tom writes, “Please note that the Union of Concerned Scientists was started in the late 1980s as a part of the nuclear freeze movement, which was proven to be funded in part by the Soviet KGB. The membership of the Union of Concerned Scientists has always consisted of at least 10% scientists and more than 90% generic America bashers.” Tom do you want to comment?

Tom DeWeese: Well, they are still active, still doing all of that. And, you know, the short way to say it is, there are no scientists in the Union of Concerned Scientists. This is literally a political operation to put these policies in place. And the targets are free enterprise and private property and your particular individual choices and how you want to live your life. It's all about totally invoking and empowering a globalist to oversee everything that we do.

Brannon Howse: Yeah, back to my book. I wrote These associations alone should be enough reason for Richard Land, who was with the Sub-Baptist Convention, not to sign his name to the Declaration of the Mission to Washington. That's this document right here, folks. That's this document is from '92. Richard Land, one of the biggest leaders of the Sub Baptist Convention for years, signed on to that. No one seemed to care. Yet he's running around with guys or signing this, I should say, with people that are tied back to the Union of Concerned Scientists.

Tom DeWeese: Union of Concerned Scientists, yes.

Brannon Howse: And it's basically a KGB front group, right?

Tom DeWeese: Yeah, it was.

Brannon Howse: Okay. So. he's signing on to that. I go on to say these associations alone should be enough reason for Richard Land not to sign his name to the Declaration of the Mission to Washington. But wait, as they say, there's more. One of the other signers is the Reverend Thomas Barry, and Tom Deweese reveals that Barry is not only an environmental extremist but also an advocate of the anti-Bible and pro pagan spirituality. This is Tom's writing. I'm quoting him in my book. "Father Thomas Barry, a dissident Catholic priest, is a prime spokesperson for Gaia.

Father Barry contends that Christianity promotes a ‘Deep cultural pathology of human greed and addiction.' He advocates that the ‘Earth is disintegrating and that Christianity is to blame.’ In his book Dream of Earth, published by Sierra Club books, Barry never uses the word God but speaks of a supernatural force in the universe.” He says, “We should place less emphasis on Christ as a person and a Redeemer. We should put the Bible away for 20 years while we radically rethink our religious ideas." Tom?

Tom DeWeese: Yeah, and this is a religious leader. What is it? The Church of Christ? There's a cathedral in New York City, a major cathedral there, and that's where he operated out of right there. And again, every single thing he said was anti-Christian, anti the teachings, and again, it's human beings are destroying the Earth.

Brannon Howse: And yet a major Southern Baptist leader, the largest Protestant denomination or association in this book in '92, these guys are a part of it. Richard Land was signing on to it. You see, again, we're losing because we're stupid. The Bible says my people perish for lack of knowledge he is talking about knowledge of the Bible. Acquisition of truth. Well, this is also about truth. What is true? What is not true. And these people are our enemies. They want to outlaw Christianity. Christianity is the problem. "Put away the Bible," the guy says. And you got useful idiots like Richard Land signing their name onto a document with this idiot. We are killing ourselves because we are stupid. True or false?

Tom DeWeese: True. Absolutely true all right. Certainly ignorant, anyway, to all of what's being thrown. The new line has become that Christianity is just about love and peace, and that's all we care about. The true teachings of Christianity, of Jesus Christ, and so forth are not to be talked about there. I don't know if you heard this story or not, but just I think it was in the last week. I believe it was in Utah. There was a meeting. It was a Southern Baptist meeting there.

And there were some folks that I know that are filmmakers had made a film revealing exactly what you're talking about here, this whole invasion of the Christian church. And they were going to be able to show that film at this event. Suddenly they were told they weren't allowed to show the film and Trevor Louden was there to be a speaker. And he took to the stage and tried to explain to people what was going on. And they shooed him off the stage. They wouldn't let him talk.

Brannon Howse: That happened right here in the mid-south.

Tom DeWeese: Is that where it was?

Brannon Howse: It happened right here in the Mid-South, at the Mid-America Theological Seminary on Saturday, and Trevor was in our studio here all day Sunday filming. Then he came on with me on Monday when he got to Florida, and we showed the video and talked about it. So, there's another example. Here's Trevor Louden and a group of guys showing how the Marxists have infiltrated the evangelical church and who stops them from showing even a trailer, much less the film at Southern Baptist Mid-America seminary right here in the Mid-South. We are doing it to ourselves.  Hey, when they exterminate us through active euthanasia, rationing of health care, COVID passports, don't complain!

Your religious leaders will be largely the ones that set you up, folks. One way they're doing it is through Marxianity local, state, and federal governments paying many churches and church denominations to get on board, become social service providers, resettle immigrants, and get a billion-plus dollars through Obama at the time, and your local church denominations and ministries were doing it. Then it was COVID shots and COVID testing. And now, as reported last week with Tom Littleton, they want your church to take any land you have and build government-sponsored buildings in cahoots with your church. Then the government and the church, can now become, you know, landlords slums and get government money. Let me tell you when liberty is sucked out of the country. You can blame the useful idiots in the religious community.

Look at this here because if we actually knew what was going on, and we have enough of us to stop it. It's just the morons in the pulpit, the pansies in the pulpit, and I'm not talking about all pastors. I'm talking about the pansies in the pulpit. We all know who they are. And if you don't read my books. These idiots couldn't run a hot dog stand! Now, all of a sudden, they want to be experts on public policy. The public policy that is pushing Marxism. But look at this document back from '92. Dr. Richard Land, Southern Baptist Convention. Who else is on here? Mr. Aldine Meyer. I just quoted him from the Union of Concerned Scientists.

This is a screenshot I took today from this book. Dr. Henry Kendall, Union of Concerned Scientists. Two doors down, there's Richard Land's name. Look at this one, Reverend James Bell. He's with this Interfaith Impact, a liberal. Let me go back to my book because I go into quote some more of these guys that are involved. Tom DeWeese what does the Declaration of the Mission to Washington proclaim? Here's an example. This is right from their book at my desk from '92, "Which the religious leaders have helped bring us to this point." That's the point I'm making. And I'm not talking again, the mainline liberal. I'm talking about your mainstream evangelical. "We are thinning the ozone layer and creating holes in it. We are poisoning the air, the land, and the water.

We are destroying the forests, grasslands, and ecosystems. We are causing the extinction of species at a pace not seen since the end of the age of the dinosaurs. Our own country is the leading polluter on Earth, generating more greenhouse gases, especially CO2, than any other country." That's what this document says and Land signed on to it. I write, "The only problem is that there is no evidence for these end of the world scenarios. America is not the leading polluter on Earth based on 25 factors. In fact, the Environmental Performance Index in 2010 listed America as the 61st cleanest country in the world out of 163 that we're ranked.”

Nevertheless, the declaration declares: 'We affirm here the strongest possible terms, the individuality of social justice and the preservation of the environment. We also affirm the support of indigenous people and the protection and integrity of their cultures and lands. We believe that the wealthy nations of the North, which have historically exploited the natural and human resources of the Southern nations, have a moral obligation to make available additional financial resources and appropriate technology to strengthen their capacity for their own development.

We believe the poor and vulnerable workers on our land should not be asked to bear disproportionate burdens, and we must end the dumping of toxic waste materials do support disproportionately in communities of low income and people of color." In other words, it's the bad racist capitalists that are doing it. But all of this is a lie. But they're pushing social justice. They go on to talk about in this document environmental justice and who is signing onto it. Some of your mainstream evangelical leaders. Tom, do you want to comment?

Tom DeWeese: Environmental justice has been around for quite a while. The term and looking at it, it is now taking center stage on a whole lot of things. Every one of those predictions that you were just reading there, as you said, not a single one of them ever came true. All lies. People would ask the question, “Why are they attacking Christianity?” Christianity is the root of Western culture. If you are out to destroy Western culture, you must destroy the root. And so, they are grabbing hold of that.

They always do this in a way where if they ban Christianity, then people would rise up, and they would take action. But if they just kind of smooth it over, if they dilute it with their stuff and change people's attitudes, values and beliefs and not do not even know what real Christianity was, then they don't have to worry about it. We all give up our liberties voluntarily out of the fear factor that goes with this. But that's the root of Western culture. That is what they are out to destroy.

Brannon Howse: And in closing, let me comment from Robert Essenhigh, Professor of Energy Conservation at Ohio State University. I doubt he's still there now. This is from one of my books from 2006 or so. He says, "Two principles of Thermal absorbing and thermal emitting compounds in the atmosphere are water and carbon dioxide. However, and this is the point that is continually missed, the ratio of water to carbon dioxide is something like 30 to 1 as an average value at the top. It is something like 100 to 1.

This means that the carbon dioxide is simply noise in the water concentration and anything carbon dioxide could do water has already done." What we need to do, folks is outlaw water. Now, if someone said to you tomorrow, “Let's outlaw water." You'd say they're nuts. Well, that's about as stupid as outlawing CO2. He goes on, "So if the carbon dioxide is increasing, is the carbon dioxide driving the temperature, or is the rising temperature driving up the carbon dioxide?” In other words, the carbon dioxide issue is irrelevant to the debate over global warming it’s in my book from 2006, Tom, closing comment?

Tom DeWeese: Yeah, well, the carbon dioxide is now, I think we've talked before about this pipeline that they're working in southern Iowa and South Dakota, North Dakota, Nebraska, and so forth, to bury CO2 into the ground, to take it out. Actually, some scientists are saying we have a shortage of CO2 right now. The plants need it. It is quite possible that you combine that along with putting in the solar farms, thousands and thousands of acres, which is nothing but cement underneath them, and the wind farms and where nothing will fly anymore. There is a possibility that we may be creating a new dust bowl out of all of this. All of this stuff, supposedly to protect the environment, is the most damaging thing to the environment that can possibly be done. It has nothing to do with that. It's all a lie. It is about control.

Brannon Howse: And it will create more food shortages, which will force more people into the towns to get fed and surrender to the government. True or false?

Tom DeWeese: Exactly. When you're starving to death, you're going to go and look for help. Whatever I need to do, please do it. I'm starving.

Brannon Howse: Absolutely. All right. Tom, Americanpolicy.org. I'm going to have you back sometime, maybe next week, to talk about Cesar Chavez. I want to do something on that. Americanpolicy.org. Thank you, Tom.

Tom DeWeese: Thank you.

Brannon Howse: Biden is about to surrender our sovereignty to the United Nations through the W.H.O. Talking about food shortages they're doing this on purpose. Hey, did I mention I'm on getter my handles @bhlive.com?